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	<title>Comments on: Web Operating Systems versus Remote Desktop</title>
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		<title>By: Allan Edwards</title>
		<link>http://blog.surfulater.com/2007/01/05/web-operating-systems-versus-remote-desktop/#comment-19119</link>
		<dc:creator>Allan Edwards</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 May 2007 13:33:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Neville,

I noticed that you had written on Nivio.com so thought you may be interested to know that Nivio is running a private beta of new features prior to full launch.

Beta registration is at:

http://www.nivio.com/Registration.aspx

If you register and let me know the user ID you select i&#039;ll get you activated on the beta.

Best regards

Allan Edwards
Chameleon PR.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Neville,</p>
<p>I noticed that you had written on Nivio.com so thought you may be interested to know that Nivio is running a private beta of new features prior to full launch.</p>
<p>Beta registration is at:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.nivio.com/Registration.aspx" rel="nofollow">http://www.nivio.com/Registration.aspx</a></p>
<p>If you register and let me know the user ID you select i&#8217;ll get you activated on the beta.</p>
<p>Best regards</p>
<p>Allan Edwards<br />
Chameleon PR.</p>
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		<title>By: Mikael Bergkvist</title>
		<link>http://blog.surfulater.com/2007/01/05/web-operating-systems-versus-remote-desktop/#comment-8844</link>
		<dc:creator>Mikael Bergkvist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jan 2007 00:40:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Yeah, why? Your typical Mac comes with all the Unix goodies and goodness you could ever need&quot;

It&#039;s not very webcentric though, is it?
If you think the web is good for anything at all, it&#039;s worth evolving, and when this happens, the issues adressed comes into play.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Yeah, why? Your typical Mac comes with all the Unix goodies and goodness you could ever need&#8221;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not very webcentric though, is it?<br />
If you think the web is good for anything at all, it&#8217;s worth evolving, and when this happens, the issues adressed comes into play.</p>
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		<title>By: GoBloggit</title>
		<link>http://blog.surfulater.com/2007/01/05/web-operating-systems-versus-remote-desktop/#comment-8772</link>
		<dc:creator>GoBloggit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jan 2007 16:40:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Web Operating Systems versus Remote Desktop&lt;/strong&gt;

Yeah, why? Your typical  Mac comes with all the Unix goodies and goodness you could ever need. But there are a bunch of Linux PPC distributions that you can, if you feel the urge, install on your Apple hardware.
If you&#8217;ve been alive the last coup...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Web Operating Systems versus Remote Desktop</strong></p>
<p>Yeah, why? Your typical  Mac comes with all the Unix goodies and goodness you could ever need. But there are a bunch of Linux PPC distributions that you can, if you feel the urge, install on your Apple hardware.<br />
If you&#8217;ve been alive the last coup&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Mikael Bergkvist</title>
		<link>http://blog.surfulater.com/2007/01/05/web-operating-systems-versus-remote-desktop/#comment-8703</link>
		<dc:creator>Mikael Bergkvist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jan 2007 17:23:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You may compare this to Microsofts office suit.
In a sense, it&#039;s a single app, broken upp in smaller units.
The so called &quot;webos&quot; is a similar type of beast, but for a more &#039;agnostic&#039; purpose.

But in a sense, it&#039;s the exact same damn thing!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You may compare this to Microsofts office suit.<br />
In a sense, it&#8217;s a single app, broken upp in smaller units.<br />
The so called &#8220;webos&#8221; is a similar type of beast, but for a more &#8216;agnostic&#8217; purpose.</p>
<p>But in a sense, it&#8217;s the exact same damn thing!</p>
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		<title>By: Mikael Bergkvist</title>
		<link>http://blog.surfulater.com/2007/01/05/web-operating-systems-versus-remote-desktop/#comment-8702</link>
		<dc:creator>Mikael Bergkvist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jan 2007 17:20:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Enough of this! The webtop is not meant to fill the same need as a desktop on the pc. The similarities in appearance are decieving, so it&#039;s partly our own fault, but there should be an element of common sense coming into play at some point.

Xindesk is NOT meant to be the equivalence of a pc/desktop or remote desktop, it&#039;s supposed to resolve a web application development issue.

When you develop an application like an email app, you will hit a certain point when it&#039;s more logical to spawn a completely new app, rather than further litter the interface with more functions that stray more and more away from the core functionality, and therefor confusing the apps primary focus.

Like a calendar or whatever.

It would be nice if I could open this new app from the said email app, since it&#039;s spawned from it, and if these two apps could interact seamlessly with eachother, exchanging their data back and forth, without much of an effort from me as a developer.

The user also might want to toggle the two apps in a way that I haven&#039;t predicted..but that&#039;s ok.
They are infact free to custimize their workflow any way they please becasue of this shared enviroment, without causing me too much of a headache as a developer.

This is the whole point of &#039;windows&#039; anyway.
That&#039;s why window systems relying on iframes totally blows.

In this shared enviroment, I can perform this party-trick over and over, making the enviroment a pleasently unified experience - albeit being completely webcentric, focusing on tasks not related to what one would associate with a local pc.

Please, couldn&#039;t someone just kill the &quot;webos&quot; tag already, it&#039;s long overdue, and it&#039;s not the point of the new generation of web software anyway.
This time, they appeared because there is a real problem in the background that&#039;s being adressed.

The funny part is that the user might not immidiatly benefit from this, they will just get this cool but partly pointless desktop, it&#039;s the development behind that actually benefits, but in the longer term, that will pay of for the user getting better apps for a cheaper price.

This is an evolvment responding not so much to the user, but to what the guys behind need to respond to the user.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Enough of this! The webtop is not meant to fill the same need as a desktop on the pc. The similarities in appearance are decieving, so it&#8217;s partly our own fault, but there should be an element of common sense coming into play at some point.</p>
<p>Xindesk is NOT meant to be the equivalence of a pc/desktop or remote desktop, it&#8217;s supposed to resolve a web application development issue.</p>
<p>When you develop an application like an email app, you will hit a certain point when it&#8217;s more logical to spawn a completely new app, rather than further litter the interface with more functions that stray more and more away from the core functionality, and therefor confusing the apps primary focus.</p>
<p>Like a calendar or whatever.</p>
<p>It would be nice if I could open this new app from the said email app, since it&#8217;s spawned from it, and if these two apps could interact seamlessly with eachother, exchanging their data back and forth, without much of an effort from me as a developer.</p>
<p>The user also might want to toggle the two apps in a way that I haven&#8217;t predicted..but that&#8217;s ok.<br />
They are infact free to custimize their workflow any way they please becasue of this shared enviroment, without causing me too much of a headache as a developer.</p>
<p>This is the whole point of &#8216;windows&#8217; anyway.<br />
That&#8217;s why window systems relying on iframes totally blows.</p>
<p>In this shared enviroment, I can perform this party-trick over and over, making the enviroment a pleasently unified experience &#8211; albeit being completely webcentric, focusing on tasks not related to what one would associate with a local pc.</p>
<p>Please, couldn&#8217;t someone just kill the &#8220;webos&#8221; tag already, it&#8217;s long overdue, and it&#8217;s not the point of the new generation of web software anyway.<br />
This time, they appeared because there is a real problem in the background that&#8217;s being adressed.</p>
<p>The funny part is that the user might not immidiatly benefit from this, they will just get this cool but partly pointless desktop, it&#8217;s the development behind that actually benefits, but in the longer term, that will pay of for the user getting better apps for a cheaper price.</p>
<p>This is an evolvment responding not so much to the user, but to what the guys behind need to respond to the user.</p>
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