Comments on: Tagging Surfulater Articles, a sneak peak http://blog.surfulater.com/2008/02/20/tagging-surfulater-articles-a-sneak-peak/ Surfulater, the journey continues... Thu, 09 Feb 2012 01:22:49 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0 By: My Cantina » Tags - we need your help. Part 1 http://blog.surfulater.com/2008/02/20/tagging-surfulater-articles-a-sneak-peak/#comment-61263 My Cantina » Tags - we need your help. Part 1 Mon, 14 Jul 2008 08:37:55 +0000 http://blog.surfulater.com/2008/02/20/tagging-surfulater-articles-a-sneak-peak/#comment-61263 [...] You can type in one or more tags, and auto-suggest lets you choose from the list of existing tags. When you press Save, the Tags you entered are added to the selected articles. Any tags already present in an article will not be added again, so you don’t end up with duplicates. This process works just like the Tags field in your Surfulater Articles. [...] [...] You can type in one or more tags, and auto-suggest lets you choose from the list of existing tags. When you press Save, the Tags you entered are added to the selected articles. Any tags already present in an article will not be added again, so you don’t end up with duplicates. This process works just like the Tags field in your Surfulater Articles. [...]

]]> By: My Cantina » Surfulater Pre-Release Version 2.91.0.0 is here. Tags come to town http://blog.surfulater.com/2008/02/20/tagging-surfulater-articles-a-sneak-peak/#comment-55737 My Cantina » Surfulater Pre-Release Version 2.91.0.0 is here. Tags come to town Mon, 05 May 2008 07:56:39 +0000 http://blog.surfulater.com/2008/02/20/tagging-surfulater-articles-a-sneak-peak/#comment-55737 [...] A new Tags field has been added to each Article template, except the Notes template. Simply add your tags here and they will be added to the database. Any duplicate tags or invalid characters are removed when the article is saved. Auto-suggest makes it quick and easy to enter existing tags.  [...] [...] A new Tags field has been added to each Article template, except the Notes template. Simply add your tags here and they will be added to the database. Any duplicate tags or invalid characters are removed when the article is saved. Auto-suggest makes it quick and easy to enter existing tags.  [...]

]]> By: nevf http://blog.surfulater.com/2008/02/20/tagging-surfulater-articles-a-sneak-peak/#comment-53176 nevf Mon, 24 Mar 2008 01:01:07 +0000 http://blog.surfulater.com/2008/02/20/tagging-surfulater-articles-a-sneak-peak/#comment-53176 Hi Jak, The good news is that the new Tag system is close to being finished. Hopefully we'll see a release of some sort, in the next week or two. I'm planning another blog post this week. Re. Search. Tags appear as a normal field even though below the surface they aren't. The will (should;-)) therefore be included in the current search results, just like any other field. I say "should" as I don't have this working yet. Hi Jak, The good news is that the new Tag system is close to being finished. Hopefully we’ll see a release of some sort, in the next week or two. I’m planning another blog post this week.

Re. Search. Tags appear as a normal field even though below the surface they aren’t. The will (should;-)) therefore be included in the current search results, just like any other field. I say “should” as I don’t have this working yet.

]]> By: jak http://blog.surfulater.com/2008/02/20/tagging-surfulater-articles-a-sneak-peak/#comment-52952 jak Thu, 20 Mar 2008 06:21:09 +0000 http://blog.surfulater.com/2008/02/20/tagging-surfulater-articles-a-sneak-peak/#comment-52952 hi nev, i too am excitedly looking forward to the tags feature; i dropped by to check on that actually ;) Your scheme sounds excellent to me, it sounds like you've looked at this from all the angles and made quite reasonable choices. I especially like: -that the tag tree will be a new tree in the knowledge tree bar -autosuggest list- would definitely help control the vocabulary Question- will tag searches be integrated with the general search? For example, suppose i have a folder called "Sandisk Sansa C250 information' which contains a bookmark that says 'sandisk forums'. It wouldnt make sense for me from workflow pov, when creating that folder, if i dont have any more specific tags to add, to reduplicate my typing in the folder name (or bookmark title) over again in the tags line. So in cases like that, searching for 'sansa c250' would, i hope, show results of all articles that 'hit' based both on tags as well as full text search? or maybe i can select what it should search in? Or will tag search simply be a separate search from regular text search? hi nev,
i too am excitedly looking forward to the tags feature; i dropped by to check on that actually ;)

Your scheme sounds excellent to me, it sounds like you’ve looked at this from all the angles and made quite reasonable choices.

I especially like:
-that the tag tree will be a new tree in the knowledge tree bar
-autosuggest list- would definitely help control the vocabulary

Question-
will tag searches be integrated with the general search? For example, suppose i have a folder called “Sandisk Sansa C250 information’ which contains a bookmark that says ‘sandisk forums’. It wouldnt make sense for me from workflow pov, when creating that folder, if i dont have any more specific tags to add, to reduplicate my typing in the folder name (or bookmark title) over again in the tags line. So in cases like that, searching for ‘sansa c250′ would, i hope, show results of all articles that ‘hit’ based both on tags as well as full text search? or maybe i can select what it should search in? Or will tag search simply be a separate search from regular text search?

]]> By: Taras Di http://blog.surfulater.com/2008/02/20/tagging-surfulater-articles-a-sneak-peak/#comment-51353 Taras Di Thu, 21 Feb 2008 07:43:29 +0000 http://blog.surfulater.com/2008/02/20/tagging-surfulater-articles-a-sneak-peak/#comment-51353 Awesome :D I personally hate having to copy and paste articles when I think that they can apply to two subject matters (and then having to find them!!) I personally find del.ico.us 's method very intuitive and easy to use (I had had no previous experience with tags prior); it seems like surfulater's implementation will be very similar Awesome :D I personally hate having to copy and paste articles when I think that they can apply to two subject matters (and then having to find them!!)

I personally find del.ico.us ‘s method very intuitive and easy to use (I had had no previous experience with tags prior); it seems like surfulater’s implementation will be very similar

]]> By: nevf http://blog.surfulater.com/2008/02/20/tagging-surfulater-articles-a-sneak-peak/#comment-51322 nevf Wed, 20 Feb 2008 20:38:32 +0000 http://blog.surfulater.com/2008/02/20/tagging-surfulater-articles-a-sneak-peak/#comment-51322 @Leigh, thanks. I don't know yet whether this will go through a Beta cycle, but if it does I'll let you know. @Alex. I haven't completely ruled out hierarchical tags, so they could possibly be implemented in the future. Another area of complexity I didn't mention in the blog post is representation and use of hierarchical tags in the new tags tree. Thanks for the info on Archivarius - very interesting. I'll have to give it a try. @Leigh, thanks. I don’t know yet whether this will go through a Beta cycle, but if it does I’ll let you know.

@Alex. I haven’t completely ruled out hierarchical tags, so they could possibly be implemented in the future. Another area of complexity I didn’t mention in the blog post is representation and use of hierarchical tags in the new tags tree.

Thanks for the info on Archivarius – very interesting. I’ll have to give it a try.

]]> By: Alexander Deliyannis http://blog.surfulater.com/2008/02/20/tagging-surfulater-articles-a-sneak-peak/#comment-51283 Alexander Deliyannis Wed, 20 Feb 2008 09:14:15 +0000 http://blog.surfulater.com/2008/02/20/tagging-surfulater-articles-a-sneak-peak/#comment-51283 This is all very exciting. I personally would favour hierarchical tags as a capability, even if some folks will simply maintain a flat list. Nevertheless, one can currently do something similar to hierarchical tags by holding cloned articles in multiple folders, I just find it less convenient if there are many tags. On a different topic, here's some good news from this part of the globe. The Cyprus developed excellent Archivarius indexing program supports .surfulater files since yesterday's release: http://www.likasoft.com/news.shtml BTW, somebody beat me to the announcement here: http://www.outlinersoftware.com/topics/viewt/659 alx This is all very exciting. I personally would favour hierarchical tags as a capability, even if some folks will simply maintain a flat list.

Nevertheless, one can currently do something similar to hierarchical tags by holding cloned articles in multiple folders, I just find it less convenient if there are many tags.

On a different topic, here’s some good news from this part of the globe. The Cyprus developed excellent Archivarius indexing program supports .surfulater files since yesterday’s release: http://www.likasoft.com/news.shtml

BTW, somebody beat me to the announcement here:
http://www.outlinersoftware.com/topics/viewt/659

alx

]]> By: Leigh Wardle http://blog.surfulater.com/2008/02/20/tagging-surfulater-articles-a-sneak-peak/#comment-51254 Leigh Wardle Tue, 19 Feb 2008 22:17:37 +0000 http://blog.surfulater.com/2008/02/20/tagging-surfulater-articles-a-sneak-peak/#comment-51254 Nev, Your proposal for Tagging in SUL is very exciting. Looking forward to trying it out. Let me know if you need a Beta Tester, Cheers, Leigh Nev,

Your proposal for Tagging in SUL is very exciting.
Looking forward to trying it out.
Let me know if you need a Beta Tester,

Cheers,
Leigh

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