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	<title>Comments on: Surfulater Pre-Release Version 2.91.0.0 is here. Tags come to town</title>
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	<description>Surfulater, the journey continues...</description>
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		<title>By: Thomas Straten</title>
		<link>http://blog.surfulater.com/2008/05/05/surfulater-pre-release-version-29100-is-here-tags-come-to-town/#comment-61299</link>
		<dc:creator>Thomas Straten</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 15:40:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Neville.

You say to Daly about his suggestion of tag hierarchy:
&quot;I did seriously consider hierarchical tags but in the end decided that it added a level of complexity most folks would find confusing and wouldnâ€™t use. 

In your example you can tag the relevant articles with â€œCountryâ€ and a second tag for the specific country. The Tagâ€™s Tree will include a top level tag for â€œCountryâ€ and then subtags for each country, in effect giving you want you want without you have to specify any hierarchies. In addition each country will have a top level tag. Give this a try and let us know what you think.&quot;

I support his idea...
You have a Sabah article... and you need to tag it with Sabah, Borneo, Travel
If I add an article about my trip to Sabah, actually i have to remember to add the tag sabah plus borneo plus travel.
If it was in a hierarchy, only adding the tag sabah would give us the ability to find it below borneo or travel.
We have to make the work, when the computer could do it for us!!

That is the whole point.
Tom</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Neville.</p>
<p>You say to Daly about his suggestion of tag hierarchy:<br />
&#8220;I did seriously consider hierarchical tags but in the end decided that it added a level of complexity most folks would find confusing and wouldnâ€™t use. </p>
<p>In your example you can tag the relevant articles with â€œCountryâ€ and a second tag for the specific country. The Tagâ€™s Tree will include a top level tag for â€œCountryâ€ and then subtags for each country, in effect giving you want you want without you have to specify any hierarchies. In addition each country will have a top level tag. Give this a try and let us know what you think.&#8221;</p>
<p>I support his idea&#8230;<br />
You have a Sabah article&#8230; and you need to tag it with Sabah, Borneo, Travel<br />
If I add an article about my trip to Sabah, actually i have to remember to add the tag sabah plus borneo plus travel.<br />
If it was in a hierarchy, only adding the tag sabah would give us the ability to find it below borneo or travel.<br />
We have to make the work, when the computer could do it for us!!</p>
<p>That is the whole point.<br />
Tom</p>
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		<title>By: My Cantina &#187; Surfulater Pre-Release Version 2.92.0.0. Tagging moves ahead</title>
		<link>http://blog.surfulater.com/2008/05/05/surfulater-pre-release-version-29100-is-here-tags-come-to-town/#comment-57202</link>
		<dc:creator>My Cantina &#187; Surfulater Pre-Release Version 2.92.0.0. Tagging moves ahead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 06:43:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The next Surfulater Pre-Release, Version 2.92.0.0 is now available. If you haven&#8217;t already read about Version 2.91 and its Tagging goodness, I suggest you start there. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The next Surfulater Pre-Release, Version 2.92.0.0 is now available. If you haven&#8217;t already read about Version 2.91 and its Tagging goodness, I suggest you start there. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Avi</title>
		<link>http://blog.surfulater.com/2008/05/05/surfulater-pre-release-version-29100-is-here-tags-come-to-town/#comment-56473</link>
		<dc:creator>Avi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 14:49:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Cliff,

A timer is an interesting idea, but seems pretty far from the core of what Surfulater is about. There is no lack of time-tracking programs and services out there, which fit the flow and needs far better than anything we could do.

Avi</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Cliff,</p>
<p>A timer is an interesting idea, but seems pretty far from the core of what Surfulater is about. There is no lack of time-tracking programs and services out there, which fit the flow and needs far better than anything we could do.</p>
<p>Avi</p>
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		<title>By: nevf</title>
		<link>http://blog.surfulater.com/2008/05/05/surfulater-pre-release-version-29100-is-here-tags-come-to-town/#comment-56459</link>
		<dc:creator>nevf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 03:15:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Daly,
I did seriously consider hierarchical tags but in the end decided that it added a level of complexity most folks would find confusing and wouldn&#039;t use. 

In your example you can tag the relevant articles with &quot;Country&quot; and a second tag for the specific country. The Tag&#039;s Tree will include a top level tag for &quot;Country&quot; and then subtags for each country, in effect giving you want you want without you have to specify any hierarchies. In addition each country will have a top level tag. Give this a try and let us know what you think.

At present you can only display one tree at a time, but we may well change this.

Re. hoisting. I&#039;ve heard this term but never quite understood it. Could you please add a post in the Suggestion Box on our Forums and explain precisely what you are looking for here. See: http://www.softasitgets.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=14

We are looking at alternate format views in the Content window. What Metadata are you interested in? Again the Forums are the best place to raise and discuss this.

Thanks for the feedback.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Daly,<br />
I did seriously consider hierarchical tags but in the end decided that it added a level of complexity most folks would find confusing and wouldn&#8217;t use. </p>
<p>In your example you can tag the relevant articles with &#8220;Country&#8221; and a second tag for the specific country. The Tag&#8217;s Tree will include a top level tag for &#8220;Country&#8221; and then subtags for each country, in effect giving you want you want without you have to specify any hierarchies. In addition each country will have a top level tag. Give this a try and let us know what you think.</p>
<p>At present you can only display one tree at a time, but we may well change this.</p>
<p>Re. hoisting. I&#8217;ve heard this term but never quite understood it. Could you please add a post in the Suggestion Box on our Forums and explain precisely what you are looking for here. See: <a href="http://www.softasitgets.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=14" rel="nofollow">http://www.softasitgets.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=14</a></p>
<p>We are looking at alternate format views in the Content window. What Metadata are you interested in? Again the Forums are the best place to raise and discuss this.</p>
<p>Thanks for the feedback.</p>
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		<title>By: Cliff</title>
		<link>http://blog.surfulater.com/2008/05/05/surfulater-pre-release-version-29100-is-here-tags-come-to-town/#comment-56458</link>
		<dc:creator>Cliff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 02:45:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do you plan to add a timer to surfalator so that journalists can keep track of hours worked on various projects using the program?

-=cliff</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you plan to add a timer to surfalator so that journalists can keep track of hours worked on various projects using the program?</p>
<p>-=cliff</p>
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		<title>By: Daly de Gagne</title>
		<link>http://blog.surfulater.com/2008/05/05/surfulater-pre-release-version-29100-is-here-tags-come-to-town/#comment-56269</link>
		<dc:creator>Daly de Gagne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 03:38:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like the tagging feature -- but am wondering whether it would be possible to have tag levels. For example, rather than have country files under news, history, etc. I&#039;d prefer to have a main tag called &quot;Country&quot; with subtags for each country.

Is it possible to have both trees open at the same time?

And given space limitations is it possible to have a hoisting feature?

The latest release is very good.

I hope that you may be looking at the possibility of developing metadata further, with metadata showing up in vertical columns.

Great work!
Do keep us posted over at the Yahoo GTD group.

Thanks mate.

Daly</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like the tagging feature &#8212; but am wondering whether it would be possible to have tag levels. For example, rather than have country files under news, history, etc. I&#8217;d prefer to have a main tag called &#8220;Country&#8221; with subtags for each country.</p>
<p>Is it possible to have both trees open at the same time?</p>
<p>And given space limitations is it possible to have a hoisting feature?</p>
<p>The latest release is very good.</p>
<p>I hope that you may be looking at the possibility of developing metadata further, with metadata showing up in vertical columns.</p>
<p>Great work!<br />
Do keep us posted over at the Yahoo GTD group.</p>
<p>Thanks mate.</p>
<p>Daly</p>
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		<title>By: nevf</title>
		<link>http://blog.surfulater.com/2008/05/05/surfulater-pre-release-version-29100-is-here-tags-come-to-town/#comment-56134</link>
		<dc:creator>nevf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 09:30:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Jak, I look forward to your comments. This release is stable, so you shouldn&#039;t be concerned about running it on you main PC.

I&#039;ve made a change to the Tags Tree to remove the root node and the vertical tree lines at the top level tags. IMO and others this is a much better presentation. You can see a screen shot in this forum post: http://www.softasitgets.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1565

Another new release coming soon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jak, I look forward to your comments. This release is stable, so you shouldn&#8217;t be concerned about running it on you main PC.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve made a change to the Tags Tree to remove the root node and the vertical tree lines at the top level tags. IMO and others this is a much better presentation. You can see a screen shot in this forum post: <a href="http://www.softasitgets.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1565" rel="nofollow">http://www.softasitgets.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1565</a></p>
<p>Another new release coming soon.</p>
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		<title>By: jak</title>
		<link>http://blog.surfulater.com/2008/05/05/surfulater-pre-release-version-29100-is-here-tags-come-to-town/#comment-56117</link>
		<dc:creator>jak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 00:34:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>fantastic nev, looking forward to trying it out. I&#039;m going to download it onto my other computer tho for the beta testing ;) but I&#039;ll play with it extensively.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>fantastic nev, looking forward to trying it out. I&#8217;m going to download it onto my other computer tho for the beta testing <img src='http://blog.surfulater.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  but I&#8217;ll play with it extensively.</p>
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